Help Stamp Out Rampant Police Brutality & Government Corruption!
 
It is my beleif that law enforcement officers and goverment officials who are corrupt are the total scum of the earth. We need to pass a law that states, 
 
"Any law enforcement officer or government official who breaks the law and is convicted of a crime should be automatically sentenced to double the normal prison sentence."
 
And there should be a three strikes law against these criminals as well!
 
KC


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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 01:50:16 -0800
From: wbsd <wbsd@mail2.quiknet.com>


Subject: sick cops in Sacramento



 KC,



My name is Steven Garrett. On 2-14-96 I was arrested by the Sacramento Sheriffs' Dept for drunk in public and brought to the Sac.Co. jail. While being booked into the jail I was told that I was being held for a parole violation ( I have never been to state prison). While in the holding cell I hit the window to get the attention of the deputies to inform them that the phone was out of order, (a violation of the state penal code). The response was 3 deputies came into the cell, one with a towel, two grabbed and twisted my arms behind my back while the third covered my head with the towel. They then dragged me to another cell with some kind of heavy steel chair in it, a 'prostraint' chair they call it. I was not resistive.They then slammed me into the chair and strapped me down to it saying," This is it, your peice of shit life is over." I ignored them for about two hours. I needed water and the toilet. I yelled for them to let me up for a minute to take care of my human needs; they told me to go in my pants. Now I'm getting really pissed off, the sink was a few feet away, but my arms were strapped to the chair. I'm only 5 '5" and 140lbs, but I managed to break the straps and free my arms. I was hoping I could reach the basin and pull myself and the torture device with me to get a drink of water, but I could'nt reach it. About this time a red head cop whose face I will never forget looks in on me, sees my arms free and yells,"We got a wild one in here!" The small cell is immediately filled with deputies all wanting to rough me up; they damn near argued over which ones got to twist my arms again. They put cuffs on me and REALLY strapped me down, you see, the chair is angled/leaning back so I had my entire body weight on my cuffed wrists, and the steel cuffs were, of course, as tight as possible. They then left me in there for about 6 hours with no water and no blood in my hands with my back pressing into the cuffs. I screamed my self hoarse during that time. They must have been worried about something, for a nurse came in a few times to take my blood pressure. To this day my left wrist is still swollen and my left thumb has lost feeling in the skin, and I have the scars from the cuffs on my back. I filed a complaint with Internal Affairs but never heard from them.


KC, the problem is this; If a police officer says something happened during an arrest and the arrestee says some thing else, well no one isgoing to listen to or believe the 'criminal', so the cop can more or less create reality as he sees fit and other 'good 'ole boys' will back him up.


The Sacramento Bee has run a couple stories regarding this torture device and police brutality, one today in fact ( the Bee has a web site) mentioned some federal suits against the sheriffs dept. handled by a Stewart Katz, Esq. who I will be getting in touch with, if I can find him.


Take those bastards to court and have no mercy, if enough of us speak LOUDLY maybe some one will hear who cares and can do something.
Steven Garrett
PS - I know a few other things about the Sacramento Sheriffs deputies that might
interest you, i.e., " elevator rides"


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From: "Philip N. Boyce" <boycpn@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com>
At 12:18 PM 2/27/97 -0600, you wrote:


Its running rampant all across the country. Cops and judges feel they are in a separate class when being accused (above the law or scrutiny).The bad cops out there are usually controlled or lead by police chiefs or city council members trying to legislate morallity (personal views andemotions). We can not legislate driving habits and continue to drive a wedge between citizens and police. Cops learn a very fundament task early in there carreer, known as testilying (as opposed to testifying). Cops who can't tolerate citizen's wanting to exercise their rights should quit the force, get a education and do something else for a living. Most cops are aggressive, under educated, and over paid traffic patrol cops realizing they can't make over $40-$75 a year doing real work therefore they attack the dorcil and un-dangerous working class. The good ones are usually educated, working real crimes as investigators (rape, robbery, domestic violence,theft, murder, assualt etc.). Citizens over the past ten years have historically turned a blind eye to victimless crimes. They don't get involved or believe until a crisis occurs with them. I believe in real and sound law enforcement but I can never subscribe to the ideal all cops go by the book and treat all citizens equally. The uniform they wear does not give them the right to act as judge and jury nor does this uniform turn them into a subhuman superior to all those they come in contact with. We need independent review boards made up of common citizens not cops-investigating-cops!!!


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I like your comments...do you mind if I post them on my page?


I think we need civilian patrols not only to cruise the street sand reporting crimes in progress (cell phones) but also to oversee the police by dressing up poorly and driving around in "underclass"vehicles. A news magazine show did this, they dressed up like gang members and drove around in a lowrider. They had a hidden camera...what do you think happened to them? Did anyone see this? Unfortunately I only saw the previews. I don't think we should have people dress up like gangs and drive lowriders but if they drove around at 2am in an older automobile they would soon find out the truth about the police.
KC
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From: rkimball@wsu.edu 
At 02:35 PM 2/11/97 -0800, you wrote: 
 
KC, 
 
I will start by thanking you for the inner courage which you have displayed. As a African American male with a master's degree in criminal justice, I understand the pressure you must be under. It amazes me how many of the respondents wield their racism and stupidity as if it were a merit badge. I guess they have to work hard to become so ignorant. 
 
Keep up the good work. 
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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:38:21 -0800 (PST) 
From: Jason Meggs  <jmeggs@ucdata.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Police abuses 
 
KC, 
 
Wow, sorry to hear about your experiences. I have enough stories of my own to take a long time to describe. I'm planning on putting them on a web page together. Right now, I have a few things up but they will disappear indefinitely in a few days, probably after the 20th. http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~jmeggs/police_abuses_index.html 
 
I will be looking for permanent website space soon. 
 
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From: "lincoln f stern" <lincoln.f.stern@locnet.com> 
Subject: Your alledged beating at the hands of a POLICE OFFICER 
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:37:39 -0500 
 
Normal What happend prior to the alledged beating or did this police officer just start beating you because he had a bad day??????? Rodney King was beaten after he took four cops out, whats your story???? I had a chance to read your story. Sounds like you are leaving something out. By the calling someone dummy is not going to get you too many sympathsizers. As far as there is no reason for a beating of any kind, what happens if the first punch is thrown by the scumbag I am just supposed to stand there and "turnthe other cheek"? My boy Rodney although he may not have deserved the beating he got he did derserve something for what he did to those cops, he never even saw any jail time, and then two months later he was backin jail.. As far as the cops who did it, what happend to innocent until proven guilty in their case, my god they were tried for the same crime twice, last I heard that was unconstitutional. 
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From: AEM29@aol.com 
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 16:43:21 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: your story 
 
Hi KC i am a police officer and i just finished reading your story.And as a police officer i have one concern when i am working and that is to make it home at the end of the night. I find your story interesting because last week while on duty i was driving thourgh the alley of a strip mall when i observed a small vehicle with one person sitting behind the wheel and the car was running. As i approached the car i ask the driver what was he doing sitting in the alley and i then ask to see his id [becausei want to know who i am speaking with when i approach someome]. no sooner then i opened my mouth our dispatch put out that a citizen had just observed a robbery in progress occurring at a pizza store. The driver heard my radio and threw the car in gear and took off. as i was running back to my car here comes a second suspect out of the back door of the pizza place with a 357 in his hand. He turned and pointed the gun at me and fired one round lucky for me he was a bad shooter. to make a long story short i returned fire hitting the suspect three times. my point is when an officer comes across a vehicle parked in the back of an alley we dont know what or who we are facing. yes 9 out of 10 times it is nothing like someone picking up their check and untill we are able to determine that is nothing we will not take chances. And when your buddy drove off when asked for his id that officer i'm sure had no ideal what in the hell was going on for all he knew you could have just robbed the place and killed everyone inside. As far as the incident at the station is concerned i was not there so without all the information i wont say and i cant say if your telling the truth or not. If it did happen like you said you should pursue it and the asshole should get what he deservers but if it didn't happen and you are not telling the truth then so should you.
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:58:13 -0500
From: David Harris <dharris@pressroom.com>
Subject: Re: Police Brutality - The Sacramento Police Department is Corrupt 
 
Mr. Dahman: 
 
I'm not going to make a value judgement as to whether or not the entire Sacramento Police Department is corrupt. However, I would like to know: 1) Did you follow up with the Internal Affairs Department (or whatever they call it) and as certain the status of your complaint. For example,was your complaint fully investigated and was it determined to be "sustained"or "not sustained?" Furthermore, did you file a complaint withthe local FBI office or with the Civil Rights Division, U.S. Departmentof Justice, Washington, DC? Was your "witness" also questioned by the SPD investigators and was a signed, sworn statement obtained from your witness? Were you or did you provide a statement to the Internal Affairs investigators? If you believe your civil rights were violated, you should consider the afore mentioned options. However, you must do it within five years. Otherwise, the statute of limitations expires. Excuse my earlier response, I did not believe you have been entirely forthcoming regardingthe circumstances surrounding your contact with the SPD. Next time an officer of the law orders you to identity yourself, do it. You only compoundedyour problems by leaving the scene. 
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:07:02 -0600 
From: Watts watts@main.rgv.net 
Subject: Police brutality 
 
Unfortunately police brutality and corruption does not end with Mark Furhman, believe me I know I served on two different police forces in Canada and I am quite disgusted with police forces and policeman in general. I have raised my children to show respect and fear of the police, never sauce them and never trust them. I wish you well with your situation, but as you already know it is almost impossible to take on the police unlessof course you have the funds that OJ Simpson has. Just to give you a idea of how I feel about the police.......... I have always felt that OJ was guilty but I told my wife earlier on in the preliminary hearing that the prosecution and the police were going to hang themselves. Sure enough theydid and my wife kind of thought I was a bit of a genious, not so. When you have been around cops as much as I you can very quickly smell the badones and there are many of them. I do not participate in any criminal activity so haven't had any run ins with them, but I also believe I am just lucky. You can be sure they will never get any support from me. I could tell you stories of police brutality and lies that would make you sick, I can assure you that I never did participate in any of this but did look the other way many times until my conscience bothered me so much that I quit. And although this was many years ago if I had ever been aksed to testify against another cop I would have done so without hesitation, unfortunately I was never asked. Be persistent but also acess the cost to yourself, sometimes it's not worth the cost. 
 
Gary in Southern Texas 
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From: CrustPUNX@aol.com 
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:15:35 -0500
Subject: brutality 
 
hey, my name is tom and im from boston. last night i went to a bowlin galley with my friends. it is "cosmic bowling" where they have strobe lights and smoke makers and loud music. my friend mark and i got headaches and went back to our friends suburban in the parking lot. we were sitting there smoking cigaretts and drinking coke. all of a sudden a cop opened the door and i said "can i help you." he ordered me out of the car. he asked what was in the bottle and i told him it wascoke and it was. he took it and threw it in the woods. he saw a STUDDED bracelet on my wrist and asked me to remove it. i did. i asked him if he was confescating it. he said "no im arresting you". as he was going to cuff me he then saw a SPIKED bracelet on my other wrist. he took that and put the cuffs on as tight as he could. i instantly lost circulationin my hands. he then pulled my friend out and did the same to him. (he had a bracelet studded with little pyramids probably protruding 1/2 centimeter. he was cuffed and we were read no rights. the cop proceeded to search the car with out our permission (he had no warrent or reason), not like it mattered if we gave him permission, our friend owned it and she was inside. we were hauled of to the station where i was cuffed to a wall during the booking process (because i might try to escape or harm the officers? please i was arrested for a bracelet, im not a vicious criminal.) i have no previous record and i was drug free. the only reason for this was the cop saw my spiked hair and spiked leather jacket. the bracelet was considered a deadly weapon and a felony!? i could kill someone faster with a pocket survival knife (which IS legal.) it probably has something to do with the fact that it was the last of the month and he wanted to fill a certain quota. i know it is not as severe as your story but it is still rediculous. --------------------------------------- 
 
From: code7@cruz.isle.net 
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:59:11 -0800 
Subject: poor 10-15 baby 
 
maybe your uncle did not help you due to the fact you a crook, and needed to go to jail.
Put the truth on you page what did you do to the poor cop? He was doing his job taking you to jail because why your hair was combed wrong. It appears that they did not beat and knowledge into you. Stop doing thing that cause the cops to look at you as an ass and life will be better for you and the poor people that have to live near you. 
 
My response? 
 
what in the hell are you talking about? If you're a cop, I feel sorry for the city you work in.
what do you mean by "you a crook" ??? 
ATTENTION!! ALL YOU COPS THAT RESPOND?  
Please read my story and use your brain before sending me these ridiculous responses...thanks!
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From: rgcp47a@prodigy.com 
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:46:03 -0800 
Subject: Hi ! 
 
Just wondering lil buddy if you are ready to head off to the joint yet ? is it San Quention ? lemme know I'll send out invitations for the bridal shower !! BTW do people really pay you to do web work ? boy are you bad !!!!! but the stellar list of clients you sent me proved it...cuz you just never know whenI might wanna stop in to Moe's hotdog stand for a all beef vienna !!! Did you send me the URL of your kiddies website to make me try to understand you were a real person with a family and all..maybe wantin a lil sympathy??.......................not! BTW if you are such a smart guy,,why dont you link your punk pussy site with your webmaster stuff..let your prospective clients know what you really are......cuz a Website Michaelangelo you aint..check this one out....
 
http://www.sanquention.kcsnew home.yukyuk/html 
 
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I did not mean to send those URL's to you, they were included as a signature.
you sure do have a lot of weird comments about it though.
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From: "Robert C. Hollister" <bob1424@atl.mindspring.com>
Subject: your net posting 
At 08:30 PM 3/1/97 -0500, you wrote: 
 
KC:
 
I was going to respond to your net posting regarding your incident with the Sacramento S.O.  Before I do, there are some things you need to do to the site.  First of all, raise the intellectual tone of it.  It is pointless to post messages from respondents whose objective is simply to anger you.  It is even more pointless for you to engage in a juvenile game of name-calling with these people. You may or may not have a valid issue here.  However, the factt hat you have not bothered to post a copy of the police report (they'rekept on microfilm & still available but you may have to pay aresearch cost) severely undermines the integrity of your position. Incidents of police brutality, while limited and rare, are an importantand valid issue.  The limited scope and un-intellectual tone with which you address the matter simply degrade  the discussion and make you come across as a "whiner" (for lack of a betterword).  I have been a police officer for 9 years and I agree that instances of police brutality do occur and should not be ignored or covered up.  I would like to engage in a discussion with you on this topic but cannot until you adopt a more intellectually honest  perspectiveand quit posting responses by idiots who probably aren't police officers anyway. 
 
my reply?
 
First of all I have to disagree with you on the point that these ridiculous replies aren't coming from real police officers. And I receive just about as many people commending me by posting my story as well as the responses. The only name calling I do is to people that call me a liar and send in totally ridiculous responses. I know that my files are in Sacramento and I will get them next time I go up that way...otherwise I will have to go pay the department where I live to get fingerprinted and then wait thru all of the red tape. 
 
Besides, I want to walk in to that sheriff's department for oldtime's sake.
 
:) KC
 
PS - Thanks for the input!
 
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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:49:33 +1100  
From: Sam Biondo <sjbiondo@ozemail.com.au>  
Subject: Police Brutality Downunder Style
 
You may wish to read the following report located at:
 
http://www.fitzroy-legal.org.au/ctyrepts/police1.htm
 
and also consider the other reports listed under police reportsat following address:
 
http://www.fitzroy-legal.org.au/flscreps.htm
 
Goodluck in the pursuit for justice 
 
sb
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Here's an e-mail I conversation I have recently Received due to posting an article
about a 9 year old who was strip searched by the police in Las Vegas:
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From: "C. Easton Beymer" <psi@rainbow.rmii.com>
To: "tdlnews" <citizen@sanfranciscobay.com>
Subject: Re: Las Vegas Police STRIP SEARCH 9 YEAR OLD BOY!!!
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:51:21 -0600
This is old news. It was all over this newsgroup when it happened 4 -6 months ago...
Subject: Las Vegas Police STRIP SEARCH 9 YEAR OLD BOY!!!
Date: Thursday,July 10,1997 1:02 PM
just saw it on a talk show...
Las Vegas police strip search a 9 year old boy for writing in cement.
He was charged with a felony although he was granted permission by a
construction worker to write his name in the cement.
The boy was taken to juvenille hall and strip searched by the police.
His mother was not contacted by anyone until after he was strip searched.
The 9 year old boy spent 5.5 hours in jail before his mother arrived to
pick him up.
The Las Vegas Police Dept. Stands Behind their actions... ridiculous!
http://ww.sanfranciscobay.com/dirty/police.htm >
my response:
great! what's the problem with posting it more and more? got a problem with that?
KC
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From: "C. Easton Beymer" <psi@rainbow.rmii.com>
No problem, except it is boring, old news. By virtue of all the newsgroups to which you posted, you obviously have an agenda. The kid was a delinquent, and damaged hundreds of feet of concrete. He needed to have his ass thrown in jail. Sounds like the police treated him just as he deserved.
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From: "C. Easton Beymer" <psi@rainbow.rmii.com>
Sorry KC. It has nothing to do with hate. I don't hate anyone. I am sick and tired of the disrespect of the law, especially by the younger segment of the population. I blame it on a number of factors: violence on television, welfare laws that have destroyed the work ethic, high taxes that force the mother out of the home to work to make ends meet, a lack of respect for authority, and people like you who have basically screwed up the government of this country with your liberal agenda.
There are people in this society who are net takers, (people who suck off the government because they are too lazy to go out and get a job), and people who are net givers (people such as myself who work, pay taxes, and raise good kids who in turn grow up to be net givers). We need to get MUCH tougher on juvenile offenders so that they will never make the same mistakes again. There was a time when I was growing up where schools were safe havens, and if someone got in trouble, it was for chewing gum in class. My oldest kid, who just graduated from high school and is going to college, had a classmate who killed his parents. Huh, duh. Do you get my point?
I would be willing to bet that the kid who was strip searched would definitely think twice before doing something again as stupid as destroying public property. The only way you are going to fix the problems with juvenile crime is to punish them to the full extent of the law. I am not sure why they strip searched him, but in this society, it may be that the police, because of past experience, felt he might be armed and dangerous.
I just went to your website and read your story. Sounds like you should have kept your mouth shut and cooporated with the arresting officers. I have been stopped by police on several occasions for speeding, and I have always treated the officer with respect, and he in turn always treated me with respect. Sounds like, in your case, they responded in kind -- you acted like a jerk and an idiot, and they responded accordingly. Things like this do not escalate without provocation. Your story sounds self-serving, and I am willing to bet that there are things you and your friend did to provoke the arresting officers. They may have gone too far with you such as they did with Rodney King, but had you handled the situation properly at the outset by being respectful of the officers, and doing everything you could to cooperate with them, the whole incident would probably have been avoided.
The police in this country have an uphill battle against almost overw helming odds to maintain law and order, and it is people like you who make their jobs even more difficult.
I thought from your posts that you maybe had a legitimate agenda, but what I found was that you are just another low-life punk. I think maybe you should put the incident behind you, GROW UP, and take a little responsibility for your life.
Bet this doesn't get put on your website...
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my response:
when 10 cops are pointing their guns at me and I didn't do anything wrong, I'm gonna
(and did) cooperate with them....
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10 cops won't be pointing guns at you if you didn't do anything wrong. This is bullshit. but when they surprisingly slam mw up against the car, my reflex was to resist.
When you resist, it is called "resisting arrest". Probably a felony.
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Well, I was only charged with resisting arrest and the charges were eventually dropped, even after I commited another crime by not showing up in court...
hmmm, I wonder why a warrant wasn't issued against me and why I never went back to court or heard about this case again.
It's my guess is that the judge beleived that I WAS mistreated and just threw it out.
I'm sure there are cops out there checking me out on the police computer right now (illegally) just like the LAPD Lt. who was just charged with molestation and misuse of the police records. I actually have an email from him telling me that the cops in the internal affairs division (where he worked) are more corrupt than he was.... he also states that he will not go to prison.
I will post this email message when the time is right...
it may be worth something at the moment :)
If a cop can't handle the words, "what do you call that back there...police brutality."
and he needs to strangle and beat me for it, then he shouldn't be a cop.
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Maybe not. There are mostly good cops and there are a few bad cops.
But for you to blast the law enforcement community as a whole is nothing
short of criminal behavior in my mind.
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I have several relatives who work in the law system and can't wait to publish the
stories I have been told... after they retire (few years)
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You are an idiot if you think anyone deserves to be beaten...
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No one deserves to be beaten, and I don't condone your being beaten.
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I like to post people like you on my site because it shows the rest of the world that there really are a lot of ignorant people out there, just like you.
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The quality of what you write shows me that you are not particularly articulate. The thought that you put into this whole tirade against the law enforcement community shows nothing but gross ignorance...
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Wait til this happens to a friend or family member of yours... then you'll think differently.
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This won't happen in my family because we've taught our kids to be law abiding,
and to respect policemen.
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well it has happened to both of my brothers (walking AND driving) who are law abiding... as well as xxxxx 3 or 4 times (and xxxxx WORKS for law-enforcement...
xxxx has some great (and a very new one) stories.
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What a crybaby! You got exactly what you deserved. GROW UP, you little creep! I've never seen anyone as self- centered as you are. Get a life! Take a little responsibility! You are really PATHETIC!
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This is the exact reason I like to post these articles on the net (ha ha ha)
All of us get a big kick out of it:)
stick and stones (and cops) will break my bones but names will ever hurt me :)
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ya,
just sweep it under the rug and let it fix itself...
The net is finally a place where it will remain forever for all eyes to see.
I could care less for your sympathy.
Just getting the message(s) out there... and I just love to get flamed... it really makes me (and all the other open minded people out there) laugh!
thanks,
ha ha ha
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?? ?? ??
Doesn't sound as if that is what you want. You want blood. The system, although imperfect, is better than Russia or Argentina or Chile or any other place on earth. You would probably have died or rotted in prison in these countries. And hopefully, through properly placed criticism by people like yourself, the system will be made better. > >
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HELLO???
NY City is rated by Amnesty International as THE #1 Police Brutality Offender in the
Whole World :(
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The net is finally a place where it will remain forever for all eyes to see. >
Garbage in, garbage out. Lot of that on the www. > > I could care less for your sympathy. I didn't offer any sympathy. > >
Just getting the message(s) out there... and I just love to get flamed... it really makes me (and all the other open minded people out there) laugh! > No one likes to be flamed unless he is a masochist. That is why the quality of posts is important. Open minded? I don't think so. Self-serving? Definitely! > >
thanks, for what
?? ?? ??
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This is the first time I have tried to add a corresponding message to a web page so it's not complete. I usually don't like to email flamers back and forth. I just like to post my email whether it's good or bad, and the most interesting are the flames.
I don't do this to be selfish, just a new way to get the message(s) out there. It's not selfish to offer people free web page space... so they can use my site to spread their message too.

 

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